Move Fast. Break Shit. Burn Out.

Move Fast. Break Shit. Burn Out.

This isn’t a typical changemaking podcast because it’s not for a typical changemaker. It’s for the innovators who can’t stop taking in information, connecting dots, and changing the world. If that sounds familiar, you aren’t broken, difficult, or an incurable workaholic. You’re a Catalyst, and authors Tracey Lovejoy and Shannon Lucas believe that means you’re a rock star. In this podcast series they are having extended discussions on how to use that information to grow and thrive, with Catalysts that are profiled in their book Move Fast. Break Shit. Burn Out.

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Julie Hassett from Oracle - Leading Transformation from the Inside Out: Trust, Intuition & Culture
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Sept. 1, 2025

Julie Hassett from Oracle - Leading Transformation from the Inside Out: Trust, Intuition & Culture

In this episode, we sit down with Julie Hassett, a seasoned enterprise transformation leader and executive coach, to explore what it really takes to lead change from the inside out.Julie’s journey spans four powerful chapters: from Accenture consultant to government catalyst, founder of a 100-person firm, and now Oracle executive. She shares how her early experience navigating complex family dynamics sparked a lifelong curiosity about human behavior—fueling a career in systems change, transforma
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Juliane Stephan, Operating Manager at BayPine - Brass Tacks Transformation: How to Do More with Less
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Aug. 22, 2025

Juliane Stephan, Operating Manager at BayPine - Brass Tacks Transformation: How to Do More with Less

In this inspiring conversation, Shannon sits down with Juliane Stephan, a lifelong Catalyst and Operating Partner at BayPine, to explore how Catalysts can find and craft roles that truly give them license to transform organizations. Juliane shares two key strategies she’s used throughout her career: identifying ambiguity when seeking new roles externally, and making a strong business case for transformation opportunities internally.They also dive into the common challenges Catalyst executives fa
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Gary Hamel, Author of Leading the Revolution, on Courage, Compassion, and Change
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Aug. 14, 2025

Gary Hamel, Author of Leading the Revolution, on Courage, Compassion, and Change

In this electrifying episode, we sat down with legendary management thought-leader, Gary Hamel , Author of Leading the Revolution, to explore what it truly takes for organizations to create their own future. Hamel delivers a powerful message: if companies want to stay relevant, they must learn to identify, embrace, and unleash their Catalysts - the changemakers, corporate rebels, and internal revolutionaries who challenge the status quo to drive meaningful transformation. Gary outlines the four
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Brynn Shader, founder of ChangeCraft - ChangeCraft: Redefining How We Lead Transformation
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July 23, 2025

Brynn Shader, founder of ChangeCraft - ChangeCraft: Redefining How We Lead Transformation

In this episode, we sit down with Brynn Shader , founder of ChangeCraft, to explore how change management must evolve in a time of relentless disruption.With 16+ years of experience, Brynn helps Fortune 500s and high-growth companies turn resistance into resilience—ditching rigid frameworks for practical, human-centered strategies. She dives into how HR can lead transformation by embracing agility, empathy, and experimentation.Brynn shares why she calls it “ChangeCraft”—because great change isn’
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Juan Carlos Lopez, Director of Data & AI at Schibsted Media: Swiss Army Knife Problem Solvers
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July 21, 2025

Juan Carlos Lopez, Director of Data & AI at Schibsted Media: Swiss Army Knife Problem Solvers

In this powerful episode, Shannon sits down with ultra Catalyst leader Juan Carlos Lopez (JC) , Director of Data & AI at Schibsted Media in Norway. With a career that spans telecom, energy, automotive, media, and e-commerce, JC has built a reputation for turning complex technical challenges into sweeping business transformations. JC shares hard-won insights from the trenches—starting with the critical importance of breadcrumbing your value. He reveals how failing to make your impact visible, bot
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Theresa Caragol, Founder and CEO, AchieveUnite - Leading Through Trust: Theresa Caragol on Building Partnerships That Scale
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June 27, 2025

Theresa Caragol, Founder and CEO, AchieveUnite - Leading Through Trust: Theresa Caragol on Building Partnerships That Scale

In this episode, Theresa Caragol—founder and CEO of AchieveUnite—shares her journey as a Catalyst leader transforming how companies grow through trust, partnerships, and culture. With over 20 years of global experience and a track record of leading 12 acquisitions, Theresa offers hard-won insights on building alignment in times of major change. A key theme in the conversation is the human side of transformation. Theresa emphasizes that success in M&A and partnerships depends on trust, communicat
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Paul L’Estrange – former CTO, Mars – Driving Transformation While Mitigating Risk
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June 16, 2025

Paul L’Estrange – former CTO, Mars – Driving Transformation While Mitigating Risk

In this episode, we sit down with Paul L’Estrange , former CTO of Mars and PVH Corp, to explore the critical role IT plays in large-scale transformation—and what it takes for Catalyst leaders to drive change while keeping the core business performing. Paul shares powerful insights on the importance of having great #2s and team members who can bring the organization along on the journey, ensuring that transformation isn’t just visionary but executable. We dive deep into listening as a strategic a
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John Bryson SVP of Startup Services and Venture Banking, Banc of California —Skate to Where the Puck Is Going
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June 6, 2025

John Bryson SVP of Startup Services and Venture Banking, Banc of California —Skate to Where the Puck Is Going

In this episode, we sit down with John Bryson , Senior Vice President of Startup Services and Venture Banking at Banc of California, to explore his unconventional Catalyst journey—one that has been anything but linear. Inspired by Wayne Gretzky’s famous advice to “skate to where the puck is going to be, not where it has been,” John shares how his career has been shaped by a series of strategic pivots, each driven by an intentional process of testing hypotheses about emerging market shifts. From
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Megan Noel, Global President of Corporate Affairs, Golin - Driving Change with Clarity
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May 14, 2025

Megan Noel, Global President of Corporate Affairs, Golin - Driving Change with Clarity

In this episode, we sit down with Megan Noel , Chief Corporate Affairs Officer at Adtalem, to learn more about the critical role of communications in leading change. She shares a powerful lesson from her mentor: “Create a B-level strategy with an A-level execution plan.” Megan emphasizes that many companies struggle to clearly articulate their strategy, making it difficult for employees—especially change leaders—to succeed. We explore how effective change-makers bring others along by crafting me
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Elizabeth Manning, Change Management Leader: From Dancer to Change Leader
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May 14, 2025

Elizabeth Manning, Change Management Leader: From Dancer to Change Leader

In this episode, we sit down with Elizabeth Manning , Change Management Leader, to explore her unconventional path from professional dancer to corporate change leader. With a natural talent for dot-connecting and systems thinking, Elizabeth found herself in the rigid, highly regulated world of big pharma—where generalist capabilities were often overlooked. Yet, as she helped leaders navigate complex challenges, her strategic value became undeniable. Elizabeth’s journey highlights the power of cr
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About the Hosts

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Shannon Lucas

Co-CEO

Shannon Lucas, former Executive Vice President, Head of Emerging Business at Ericsson, is a global thought leader on intrapreneurship and corporate innovation frameworks.

For over twenty years she’s driven innovation into Fortune 500 businesses and cutting-edge startups, launched her own companies, and served on the board of several non-profits.

Shannon’s personal mission is to transform corporations into sustainable change engines. Shannon’s passion is igniting and supporting change agents (making her the perfect Catalyst Constellations co-founder!).

Shannon is an adrenaline junkie and loves exploration of all kinds, cultures, countries, food and wine.

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Tracey Lovejoy

Co-CEO

Tracey Lovejoy is known for her optimistic outlook, quick mind, freakish intuition, sassy attitude and drive for results.

Tracey is a Coach that supports Catalysts and their teams, and is the Researcher behind the Catalyst movement. Before she became a Coach, Tracey spent 12 years at Microsoft, where she worked at the intersection of technology, design, and innovation leading teams of change makers.

She is also the co-founder of the Ethnographic Praxis in Industry Conference, the premier international gathering on ethnography in business.

When Tracey isn’t helping individuals and organizations transform, she’s hanging out with her kids, cleaning up after pets, or stealing moments to feed her reading addiction.